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Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.

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1. Haymarket police out of control?
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A longtime VCDL member is being put through the wringer by what
appears to be a vindictive police officer in the Town of Haymarket.

The problems began when the member was stopped at a sobriety
checkpoint. The member had not been drinking. He did refuse to
answer some of the questions he was asked, as is his right since he
was not under suspicion for breaking any laws. As a courtesy he did
tell the main officer at the scene that he was legally armed.

The member's gun was taken away at that point and unloaded.

The police told the member that he could go, but that the police were
going to keep his gun to run stolen checks against it.

The member asked for a receipt for the gun in that case, but the
police refused to give him one (!).

The member then asked for his gun back, saying that he would not give
them permission to hang on to it.

He was finally given his gun back, unloaded and in an evidence bag
and the member continued on his way.

A week or so later, the member was stopped by the same officer while
driving through Haymarket. The officer said that the member was
driving with his blinker on. The member was - he was exiting the
freeway!

The member was again cut loose without charges.

The member was fed up at that point and called the non-emergency
Haymarket Police number later that night. He was forwarded to the
senior officer in the field, you guessed it, the SAME officer as
above! (I thought I had bad luck.)

During the course of the discussion, the member asked the officer if
a Sergeant on the force was still beating his wife (there had been an
article in the papers about the officer having a restraining order
filed against him by his wife in 2005).

The next morning the member filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
request with the Town Clerk asking question about the Town's
checkpoint program.

The night that the FOIA was filed, the officer went to a magistrate
and the magistrate issued a warrant (not a summons, which is
customary for misdemeanors) for the member's arrest. The member was
arrested in front of his family, taken to the court and immediately
released by a judge on his own recognizance.

The charge? I mentioned the law last week in the VCDL update:

"18.2-427. Use of profane, threatening or indecent language over public
airways.

If any person shall use obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent
language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten
any illegal or immoral act with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any
person, over any telephone or citizens band radio, in this Commonwealth, he
shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."

The only problem is that the officer said that the member asked if
the Sergeant was "screwing his wife" instead of "beating his wife" in
the warrant.

The member denies that, and having known him for years, I believe
him. Besides, case law emphasizes that there must be a THREAT for
the law to apply (http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinions/opncavtx/0664032.txt).
The officer's report indicates no threat. And even if one accepts the
officer's rendition of what was a said, "screwing" is NOT profane in
Virginia in and of itself, and certainly not in the context claimed
by the officer.

Sounds like the officer was looking for any opening to maliciously go
after the member, punishing him for using his right to free speech
and redress of governmental grievances.

The member is already out $2,000, even if the case is dropped (as I
expect it will be).

VCDL plans on doing some Freedom of Information Act requests to
Haymarket to find out if other legally possessed guns were
confiscated under similar circumstances and how many times.

Haymarket police out of control?
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It's a new day

The Haymarket police department and the town council is going to need to relize that the days of old are over. Today, the population of Haymarket is exploding and do you know who is moving in here? Doctors, Lawyers and people who make enough money to not only buy million dollar houses, but people who can hire very expensive laywers.

The Haymarket police department is now dealing with a population who knows their rights under the law and will not tollerate that good ol' boy mentality. We know our rights, we have lawyers, we have video cameras and we have camera phones that we will use to adjust your attitude.

Town Council Meeting June 19th

Folks,

I have no idea who runs this site. I'd never heard of it until April 30th or so.

But I finally decided to post here. I never planned to become part of the Haymarket political and social scene. I've stopped in Haymarket for years to patronize its gas stations and convenience stores. That will likely be changing. I used to meet my hunting friends early in the morning at Sheetz before we would go over to our favorite hunting spot in eastern Fauquier not far from Haymarket. Its where I introduced my oldest son to hunting, and he is now way far better at it than me. Then we lost our hunting place in Fauquier. So we don't do that anymore.

I plan to speak, if allowed, to the town council next Monday, June 19th. I understand there is some sort of open citizen comment time available.

So far they haven't heard my side of this discussion directly from me.

I have no ill will toward the HPD or its officers. I am disapointed by their conduct at the checkpoint and the misrepresentation of what I said in a second phone conversation with Officer Baldwin. It was a call meant to bring my concerns to the HPD leadership through the main number. I didn't think it was "heated" but rather "matter of fact." I've FOIA'd any tapes that may exist. My only goal would be to see them improve their performance and change some of their procedures. I don't want to sue the town or any individual. I really don't want the taxpayers of Haymarket to have to pay for lawyers and court fees, etc.

I was unhappy to find myself in a disagreement with Cpl Kenworthy, a Marine. My son is currently at PI with Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. He graduates, Lord willing, at the end of August from boot camp and get his globe and anchor. I suspect that Officer Ishmail(?) is a Marine also. So I have an initial favorable opinion of them to start. I still do, and I would give them and the others the benefit of the doubt.

But some facts speak too loudly to be understood in any other light.

I was simply trying to assert my constitutional rights, which is why the Marine Corps exists... to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. There's this bunch of words called the Bill of Rights that is part of it, and I tend to respect that sort of thing. In school, I paid attention when they talked all that stuff about King George's agents carrying out general warrants against the colonists. They said that was one of the complaints our founding fathers had with the British. It wasn't right what King George was doing. And of course, King George tried to take peoples' firearms and ammunition. That's what Lexington and Concord were about in 1775. So when Officer Baldwin said he had the right to take my carry gun because I was "upset" I certainly did object. If trying to preserve one's property mkes me "uppity" then I'll make the most of it. Besides, I can't find the authority to take a man's gun without probable cause that it is stolen in the VA Code. If anyone can, please let me know.

Ok, so I am a little different from most docile citizens. I will speak my mind.

But my actions were not an "attitude." And how else do you express, articulate and assert a Constitutional right without speaking up? Rights not asserted are waived. I value them. Men died fighting for them. I should throw them away to be comfortable and have an easy life?

Anyway, I don't plan to be a regular here, but I may have a few more things to say. I do hope to post my comments to the town council after Monday, June 19th.

Dennis Fusaro

Here is a copy of the Criminal Complaint & Warrant!

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If you don't want to read these sideways, here are links to them so you don't have to:

Criminal Complaint

Warrant




Good Job Town Council!

Mayor Stutz,

You made it so the Chief didn't have to clear all new hires through the council, remember?

Good Move!

So he hired officers without experience instead of hiring officers that applied that have 5 + years of experience. This is what you get. When will you and the council learn that you have a Chief that doesn't know how to run a Police Department?

Another question. How is it that there are 5 officers in the town and you have a Chief, a Sgt, and now a Corporal? LOL 3 Chiefs and 2 indians - How many supervisors does it take to run that small department?

Just remember - Always on Guard

I am not Surprised !!

This type of thing is expected of this Department and it's leadership (or lack there of.)
Since when do the police have a right to take a legal citizens firearm and hold it to run a check on it at a later date?
I would go to the magistrates office and obtain a warrant against them for larceny.
Once again the good ole boy syndrome in Haymarket where the police are ABOVE any law set forth in the Commonwealth of Virginia statute.
The member in this case should also contact the State Police to file a complaint.

Warrant/Summons

I wonder if the warrant had the box checked "release at officer's discreation" ? If so, then it was the Officer's fault that the guy was arrested for this simple charge. VA State codes states you "shall issue a summons" unless you have reason to believe the person will not show up for court.

I see another lawsuit in Haymarket's future!

Just remember - Always on Guard

great, just great

wonder what will become of the Town's police force now? Will the Council stand by and let this occur? How many people on the current and incoming Council own guns and support gun rights?
What the police did is absurd and sounds like it borders on illegal. To try to confiscate a weapon and do "stolen" checks on it, because someone doesn't 100% cooperate at a checkpoint is crazy. Besides, can't the officer just call the serial number into dispatch to check it?

I can see

I can see confiscating the gun if the person seemed to be intoxicated or under the influence of something.

As for the stolen gun check, it should be done everytime that someone is stopped and has a weapon identified on that person. But being as small town as we are, and if you are stopped once, the officers should realize that if they check a gun once, they should not have to check it again.

Once the officers know you, and are aware that you have a CWP and use it. You should not have to go through this.

X1USMC - gun trace

If someone has a CCW permit, it should be assumed that they are law abiding citizens and there should be no trace ran on the weapon - unless they are breaking the laws of the Commonwealth.

What's next? The Chief going to go house to house to check all of the guns people have in their homes?

Just another example of the leadership of the PD being subpar. The only reason they wanted to hold the guy up and run a check is because they deemed him to be being uncooperative. Which, from what I've read, isn't a crime.

I guess it doesn't pay to be cooperative

Can't help but to think that if he was coopertive that none of this would have happened.

Dennis would not be pulled over on the whim of a officer, labelled as a trouble maker. You know the deal I am talking about.

I guess it is good to be a rebel

Haymarket police out of control?

As a retired police officer after 27 years in a major metropolitan police department, I can confirm that the officer could have radioed the make, model and serial number and requested a stolen check which he would have received back in a matter of minutes. Having personally seen how members of the Haymarket Police Department perform their job, these allegations do not surprise me. What does surprise me, is that the Mayor and City Council continues to back the Chief and his department. It leaves one with a perception that Haymarket is a backward, "good old boy" small southern town to be avoided. Haymarket used to be a nice small town to visit, shop in or dine, now it's a place I refuse to shop, dine in, or even drive through. You can keep your quaint, troubled, and with the development the past few years, unpleasing to the eye small town. I'll live, shop and dine in Gainesville!

charges dropped?

that was the outcome on Thursday. Guess the PD just likes wasting people's time.