Haymarket Police Suspends Two

I guess the main thing I don't understand is that we are going to go on and on about how the cheif and greg were suspended but wasn't the person who accused them arrested for being apart of a gambling ring? Oh yeah, cause he's real trust worthy.

No he never got arrested. He was written a couple tickets. A gambling ring was hoping to be found. One has never been found that I know of.

One thing to remember...those charges of illegal gambling were dropped/dimissed.
The stuff against the chief/sgt were not...they were punished.

Don't get all upset. I just assumed that if we are going to speak negatively and try and discredit certain members of the community I would objectively throw out other things that I have read about in the paper. This is, after all, an open forum where all aspects of the issues should be discussed.

Oh, and I made a sexual joke at work today. People laughed. Maybe it's because I'm a woman or maybe because no one over reacted. Anyways the joke was really funny but I don't think I'll share because I don't want people to get upset.

But can they deny that person was there? I just said he was arrested. I didn't say that he was found quilty. I only said what was written in the papers. Common knowledge.

He was never arrested. They just handed out tickets to two people.

Supose you had the written opinion of a completely disinterested party? Let us say an independant attorney engaged to investigate the harrassment complaint against the police. Would that sway you?

Truth comes as conqueror only to those who have lost the art of receiving it as friend. - Rabindranath Tagore

The way you pose your question to me puts me into the position that -I am not sure exactly when or which phase of judgment of the alleged I am to consider the independent attorney's opinion.

However, simply put, in the legal system of weights and balances, here in the United State of America, there are the complainants, the defendants, and the judges. There is also evidence - good and bad; and there is always the question - was there - enough evidence; proper evidence; outside professional/expert and welcomed opinion; and witnesses for both sides; past history of the defendant(s); past history of the complainants; attorneys to examine evidence and to represent the client(s) on both sides when questioning/presenting the evidence. All of these are important parts of the process that are to be considered.

There is more to the legal system of weights and balances, but I am sure I narrowed it down to what you are talking/asking about.

It would be the very document that your representatives used to find the accused guilty. The same document that convinced your representatives to vote in favor of a six week suspension of the accused. Yes, the very same document that resulted in a unanimous condemnation of the acts of the accused.

Truth comes as conqueror only to those who have lost the art of receiving it as friend. - Rabindranath Tagore

I have never seen the document, have you? I am thinking that there must have been accompanying documentation.

perhaps that would be beneficial to the Town...for all to see an investigative report. Let's call Court TV...think they will look into it for us?

Was does the word "warrent" mean? It is not a real word in The American Heritage College Dictionary or other sources that I have available to me.

What do you mean by the word "atleast"? You have used it twice in your statement. Do you really have any idea what the word "atleast" means? I know what it means and it has nothing to do with your statement. Its not a real word in The American Heritage College Dictionary.

Oh, just becuase you don't seem to be internet slang knowledgeable:
ROTFL: means rolling on the floor laughing.
Becuase your dissecting my grammar and spelling made me laugh. To CLARIFY:
Main Entry: 2warrant
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old North French warantir, from warant
1 a : to declare or maintain with certainty : be sure that b : to assure (a person) of the truth of what is said.
I sincerely apologize for my typo of the word warrant. ~snickers~

And "atleast", sorry another slang for "at the least."

Maybe if you write to the Webmaster they will give you a FULL time job as forum grammar and spelling checker. Bring your American Heritage Dictionary as a reference. You can even drive your look alike police car to work and be the grammar and spelling police. "Make us (fast typers) slow down" when we see your car.

I understand that there are quite a few people looking for jobs, perhaps I will see their application(s) in the same pile of bull that you are talking about! WTF LMAO

WTF - Wants To Find
LMAO - Lost My Attitude Online

Be interesting, be enthusiastic... and don't talk to much. - Norman Vincent Peale

Truth comes as conqueror only to those who have lost the art of receiving it as friend. - Rabindranath Tagore

Dear, everyone I know has a full time job. Matter of fact if your referring to who I know you are, two of them are QUITE well off with their own long in running self owned businesses and the other I'm not sure if you know is STILL a police officer. And he hasn't been one day without a full time job.

Just tossin a little bit of that "pile of bull" in an "immature" way right back atcha. And NO atcha might not be in your dictionary either. You might want to find another person to try to pick on SIR. I did have help with that little wanna be police car line. Since I don't know anything about you. But it seems others do. Quite a flattering reputation you hold. ;)

As rediculous and without proper merit as your elusion to a so called job opportunity and the way you are imagining it would be posted as a position with the web master sounds, its really the way you all go about everything you do.

You fail to understand or want to understand/admit that I am pro Police Department, and in that I spoke of the illusion and effect that a car that is similiar by coincedence in appearance (and by-the-way its a 1992 model Ford Crown Vic, which by-the-way is a factory LX model not a Police Interceptor, was inherited, and has a 4 year old paint job) to a Haymarket Police car has on unsafe driving habits and the effect that deterance has on crime.

And I can see where in your responses in these informal forums, where each of you (since you mention that you had help) do not hesitate to twist things around to where it would seem that things are more than what they really are in an attempt to gain attention to whatever your cause(s) is/are. For example, where exactly do I say who I am referring too when refering to the number of unemployed, but you seem to think there is something written that is not - interesting that you would do that.

Unfortunately, the only thing I understand from your comment back at me is......Assume......ass'u'me, and I really mean that. If you find that comical then enjoy the humor.

Now this may come as a surprise to you, I am not saying that you necessarily have lied about other things that you have written about throughout this informal forum, but I am saying that I really suspect that you enjoy blowing everything that you get involved with out of proportion. And you enjoy going about it sarcastically and you have no idea whatsoever on how to make any situation better pragmatically. Nor do you have the patience or are willing to let those with the authority and ability to get those things done pragmatically.

And, you know what, only the Haymarket Police Officers as a whole have tarnished the image of the Haymarket Police Department, and by that I do not mean every Haymarket Police Officer. And it is tarnished because the Haymarket Police Officers involved in the dispute, as a whole, failed to find a way and/or to accept to resolve its issues among themselves with professional assistance in the type of settings that are in place for "personnel issues".

And if you are who I think you are and are looking over your wife's shoulder, then we spoke once at a car repair garage in Haymarket, and if you are reading what I have written here, it has been tarnished on your watch just as much as those Haymarket Police Officers that were accused of improper behavior, not anyone else's and certainly not the citizens of the Town of Haymarket. And, although all the attempts by the citizens of Haymarket, the Town Council, the attorneys, the punishment handed down, and others have helped tremendously, and are the proper steps in "personnel issues", its only you that seem to be the ones complaining and you have complained outside the system that was established to handle "personnel issues", which in fact are in place to protect the accused, the accusor, and those involved with the legal aspects of a solution to any personnel problem. And you certainly are the ones who are attempting to get the residents of the Town of Haymarket involved in this Haymarket Police Officers' "personnel issue(s)". I agree with Kaytmay 100%....when she stated that remember when you point your finger you have three facing you.

One other thought for you to ponder, when and if I meet either Haymarket Police Officer, or any other Police Officer I will show the utmost respect for the position that they represent.

There is one thing that I can be assured of when the current Town Council speaks, as a whole, on an issue, I can be assured that as whole governing body, they have their act together. And, the current Town Council as a whole act accordingly, appropriately, and in a pragmatic way.

Ok I skipped most of that. However, just your first paragraph denotes you are not comprehending my sarcasm. Did you honestly take that job idea as a serious one? It was'nt supposed to be full of merit. LOL.
And you don't know how I go about everything. You don't know me or have ever met me. And just becuase I'm being a bit sarcastic at some of your silly comments does not mean I'm doing anything but tossing in a few comments here or there. I assure you I have no hidden agendas, nor am I trying to resolve any issues. I am not involved in anything mentioned in these articles. I have never met any of you personally except the chief, the sergeant and the police officers. I think I met one council member. Just another citizen enjoying the debating. Yes I'm ENJOYING. It's quite interesting to see peoples opinons and how they voice them. Point my finger? I only point my finger in one direction for one incident. That if you had been there to witness you would have been retracting alot of your statements. And anyone feel free to point your fingers back at me. Not a whole lot anyone can call me out for. ;) For in that situation I did nothing wrong what so ever. Except answer my phone. I have no idea what you are referring to as "you have no patience to let authority make bleh bleh bleh....". I'm not interefering nor involved with anything really. The authority can do what ever. My patience btw is vast. Haven't lost my temper once in here. I've actually been laughing quite alot. And this may come as a surprise to YOU. I haven't lied one bit. The scary thought? Is the incident I claim happened. Happened. I'll let you chew on that a bit. Enjoy.

Hey glenp...find a new area to concentrate you posts...correcting spelling errors isn't your cup of tea.

Thank you, I will accept any reasonable offer as long as its with a proper organization. My mind is open for suggestions. :>)

ATLEAST
A command used to require a word or words to appear at least so many times in a document. For example, to find documents that contain an in-depth discussion of the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act.

Its like a computer hot key, I have programmed hot keys where when certain keys are pressed certain words, phrases, etc. are inserted in the location where the cursor is; and have done so in Access databases and MS Word documents.

I joke with people at my company all the time. No big deal. Roop is a good person with a fantastic sense of humor.

And by the way, I think Gregg is fantastic and I would have done a lot more than just use a hatchet on the door if someone was trying to keep me out of my own house.

This small town is full of great people and neighbors as well as a lot of dishonest busybodies. Leave our boys in blue alone.

And one more thing, It's not like we don't know whose wife is making all the negative comments. You're not real bright are you.

Wow,
I joke with people at my company as well but I do not do so sexually, Thats where the difference is.

Jim is a fatastic person, well I dont see it. His sense of humor is rude, offensive, and most of the time out of line.

I was at the the hearing for the "Hatchet Man" and somethings that were not taken into consideration in my opinion was the phone call the night before threating the life of his wife, and the fact that the police officers told her to lock the doors.

And just a little heads up your boys in blue are in black...

Lets get a few facts straight. I have NEVER talked to any media. For the first time ever I've said anything and thats just a few posts in here. ALL the negative comments? Your giving me an awful lot of credit. For merely stating a few responses to a few articles that I found a bit negative myself. Im sorry. ~smiles~ Am I touching a few buttons?? Freedom to express ones opinions. Great isn't it? I'm neither a busybody nor dishonest. Hate to burst that bubble of yours.

Like i was telling glenp...joking is one thing, sexual harassment is another...

and one more thing, who is "we"??? and who is the wife making all the negative comments...inquiring minds want to know!

Concrete: I agree with your first line.

Maybe some guys do find that kind of joking funny. Being female, I'm sorry but I'm just not laughing. Does that make me bad, vindictive, malicious, and backbiting for taking offense? I'm stating my mind on how I felt about the whole thing.

GlenP I agree the Chief can be a nice guy as I am sure we all can be nice, great, and fantastic sometimes.

But even you must admit there is a line sometimes not to be crossed. Im ashamed to see so many think that its ok.

That is wishful thinking if you are up next for promotion; I would say for those of you who are thinking that its that easy; keep on daydreaming.

And, as for that line that should not be crossed - Of course there are several fine lines that should never be crossed; harassment, if it occured, is one of those lines.

Uh- didn't work huh?

Did they Chief save your cat or something?

For some reason you think he can do no wrong! Is he a nice guy? Yes. Is he a good police officer, probably. Does he make a good leader and police chief, NO.

-Unbelievable!

So sorry you do not like the chief...
So you do not like that I think he is a great guy... that is too bad
I can think for myself I do not need your comments to try to sway me otherwise and that is what you do on this site. I am simply stating my feelings. seems like it is what everyone else is doing here.I just do not agree with you. I do not have a problem with that.
ps I do not have a cat lol